Wednesday, February 1, 2023

One Disagreement with Tommaso


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He said Jazz, Metal, etc, could be distinguished from, not just a specific Classical style, like Baroque, Viennese Classic, Romantic, but all of common practise. I e Classical from Baroque to Romanticism.

On one item, I'd actually concede the point. Much modern popular music actually does have a direction towards the dominant rather than from dominant to tonic. But that, in turn, is a return to something which was very currently done in Medieval and Renaissance music, it was called plagal cadence.

Apart from that, and for tunes that do not use this particular conceit, I would say, common practise extends from Baroque over Romanticism, over vaudeville, to modern pop. Any type, jazz, country, schlager, metal, rockabilly, has a high degree of common practise.

Atonal and other experimental styles are actually less classical than modern popular music. Aniara by Blomdahl or The Rite of Spring by Stravinski have less in common with the Opera and Operette I head in Vienna, than Hammerstein or Bernstein have.

So, like Romanticism, and unlike atonal, modern pop is a recognisable widening of the constraints inherent in common practise, but not a rupture from them. However, any given common practise style would be different from any given modern pop style, as having different extra constraints./HGL

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